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Author:  meddlingfool [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Later days, Dremel!

Imagecant wait to take it for a spin!

Author:  Doug Balzer [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:01 pm ]
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Now why did you need to go and post that Ed? I was just starting to feel content with my current level of tooling ;)

Author:  Alex Kleon [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:05 pm ]
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I'm half way there, Ed!!! I've got the same laminate trimmer! gaah I think I'm going to have to give Tony K a call.

Alex

Author:  Rod True [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:40 pm ]
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nice, I want one of those!

Author:  meddlingfool [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:15 pm ]
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I got it from Sylvan Wells, 125$ shipped. Very solid precise unit, though I would like to replace the fine adjustment knob with a tele knob. He has more for those who want one. I've grown tired of the rinkey dink (though admittedly effective ) Dremel after 150+ rosettes. Now I just need to find some 1/4 shank downshear spiral bits...

Author:  Rod True [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:57 pm ]
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I meant the router :) I've made more than 20 of those circle jigs over the years for sale.

Amazon for your bits or find a local machine shop supplier for end mills. Don't look for router bits, you'll pay too much.

http://www.amazon.com/Diameter-Shank-Fl ... A4HR47GM14

Author:  John Arnold [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:18 pm ]
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Quote:
Now I just need to find some 1/4 shank downshear spiral bits...

Whenever I do use a 1/4" router for small slots, I just use a brass adapter sleeve to reduce it to 1/8". Works great.

Author:  Clay S. [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:48 pm ]
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"Whenever I do use a 1/4" router for small slots, I just use a brass adapter sleeve to reduce it to 1/8". Works great."

+1
Stew Mac has them.

Author:  Tom West [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:10 pm ]
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Ed:
If you are interested in 1/8" downward spiral, try roto zip bits, shorten them up to the length you want, grind new relief on the cutting edges and you have relatively cheap bits.
Tom

Author:  SteveSmith [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:50 pm ]
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Clay S. wrote:
"Whenever I do use a 1/4" router for small slots, I just use a brass adapter sleeve to reduce it to 1/8". Works great."

+1
Stew Mac has them.


yup

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:41 pm ]
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precise bits and Elaire corp make 1/8" collets for most popular routers. Rigid? Not sure. Precision collets are much better than those inserts. I also posted a link for bulk buying of 1/8" bits (last 2 weeks). All of this will work with WK jig and improve ur work.

Mike

Author:  meddlingfool [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:57 pm ]
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Since the ones Rod posted are only 6$, I'll try that first...

Author:  Tom West [ Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:02 am ]
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Ed: I've bought the roto zip bits 16 in a box at less then $2 a bit.
Tom

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:25 pm ]
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Ed,

You will probably be OK. But, if after you cut your finer slots <1/16", and you notice wide spots after you insert purfling and sand back, then you might have an issue with runout. Unforunately, Elaire Corp does not make a precision collet for Rigid. Precise Bits does, and it's the same as the Bosch Colt. Maybe you call Elaire and ask if their Bosch Colt Collet will work on the Rigid? Other than that, precisebits has a good one, albiet expensive.

Elaire corp does sell a precision collet reducer that may be a good solution as well. http://www.elairecorp.com/colletadapter.html

Precise bits collet: http://www.precisebits.com/products/equ ... Kit!!!PG!!! (Bosh Colt Warning does not apply)

$6 a bit is high. I usually get them under $2 a bit.

Two flutes: http://drillbitsunlimited.com/Carbide-R ... 48900.aspx

Fish tail: http://drillbitsunlimited.com/Carbide-R ... 48900.aspx

This is the same guy that sells on Ebay (folks mention him in other posts here and on other forums). Reducing from 1/4" to 1 mm is a lot, and you will find like me, that these break a lot. So it can get expensive in a hurry.

Thus far, my favorite bits are fishtail, lightly used, 1/8" shank, 1 mm, 1/16, 3/32, 1/8

Mike

Author:  theguitarwhisperer [ Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:18 pm ]
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meddlingfool wrote:
I got it from Sylvan Wells, 125$ shipped. Very solid precise unit, though I would like to replace the fine adjustment knob with a tele knob. He has more for those who want one. I've grown tired of the rinkey dink (though admittedly effective ) Dremel after 150+ rosettes. Now I just need to find some 1/4 shank downshear spiral bits...


LuthierTools has those: http://www.luthiertool.com/binding%20cutter.html
Scroll dow, you can buy just the cutter, super high quality.

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:59 pm ]
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theguitarwhisperer wrote:
meddlingfool wrote:
I got it from Sylvan Wells, 125$ shipped. Very solid precise unit, though I would like to replace the fine adjustment knob with a tele knob. He has more for those who want one. I've grown tired of the rinkey dink (though admittedly effective ) Dremel after 150+ rosettes. Now I just need to find some 1/4 shank downshear spiral bits...


LuthierTools has those: http://www.luthiertool.com/binding%20cutter.html
Scroll dow, you can buy just the cutter, super high quality.



I must be missing something here. Don't you all find a 1/4 bit (not just the shank) a bit much for rosette work? I like any initial cuts I make to be much smaller and work my way in or out. If I make any kind of mistake, a small cut is easier to recover from. Perhaps ya'll are talking about something else... idunno

Author:  theguitarwhisperer [ Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:02 pm ]
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Mike O'Melia wrote:
theguitarwhisperer wrote:
meddlingfool wrote:
I got it from Sylvan Wells, 125$ shipped. Very solid precise unit, though I would like to replace the fine adjustment knob with a tele knob. He has more for those who want one. I've grown tired of the rinkey dink (though admittedly effective ) Dremel after 150+ rosettes. Now I just need to find some 1/4 shank downshear spiral bits...


LuthierTools has those: http://www.luthiertool.com/binding%20cutter.html
Scroll dow, you can buy just the cutter, super high quality.



I must be missing something here. Don't you all find a 1/4 bit (not just the shank) a bit much for rosette work? I like any initial cuts I make to be much smaller and work my way in or out. If I make any kind of mistake, a small cut is easier to recover from. Perhaps ya'll are talking about something else... idunno


You're right actually, he want 1/4 inch SHANK not TIP.

Do they make 1/4 inch shank bits in tiny cutting diameters?

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:18 pm ]
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I do not know if they make them (the really small ones). I went to that site above and they only carry 1/8" (and oddly, one 3/16").

I fixed those links.

Mike

Author:  Rod True [ Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:02 pm ]
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I like to use 1/32" bit to start with.....All 1/4 shaft size.


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Author:  Mike OMelia [ Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:25 pm ]
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Rod, what do those 1/32 bits cost?

Author:  Rod True [ Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:19 am ]
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I bought them years ago off a guy on eBay. I'll see if I can find them again.... If I recall they were about $3 each back in 2008 or so....

edit: Don't know what I was thinking yesterday when I posted that the bits were 1/4" shaft. They are 1/8" shaft....


I just did an ebay search and there are plenty of options.....

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... l&_sacat=0

And I think this might have been the source I purchased from in the past. Qualitymachinery

Here's another source at a good price. Carbide Plus

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